edge between chaos and order - chaos means death, order means continued life. In our culture we use those metaphors, good versus bad, life against death. We human beings are somehow aware of that closeness of death, disaster, chaos, and we're also aware that the answer to survival is to make symmetry, harmony.
You even argue that we have a biological need to create poetry.
Poetry arises out of our need to create harmony, order, predictability - rhythms, rhythms, rhythms. The heartbeat, the intestine's contractions and relaxations, the ways cells move around - these are all rhythms within the body that reassure us against the imminence of death.
You find the body's tenacity appealing.
I find it enormously reassuring. The human body is going to serve you very well for six, seven, maybe eight decades. It's hard to get sick, and 90 percent of the people who go to the doctor either don't have anything wrong with them or will get better on their own. Why do you think alternative medicine has become so popular? Because its practitioners listen to their patients, and their patients are going to get better anyway. Allopathic doctors, real doctors, are impatient with people who aren't really sick, so they don't give them what they really need, which is nurturing.
That's quite a statement from a surgeon.
Well, people like to be rescued, which is one reason people like surgeons, who come in and save the day. But by and large, surgeons simply correct certain mistakes so that nature takes over, as with Marge Hansen.
And nature can be pretty powerful.
Absolutely. By all rights my patient Marge Hansen should have died, but she lived. She remembers
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thinking, in her last conscious moment, that she didn't want to leave, she wasn't ready to die. Her body marshaled its forces to save her. And maybe she lived because of my instinct for survival in which I said, "I will not let her die." And every endorphin and every serotonin and every adrenalin molecule that was available to me poured into my bloodstream so I could think more clearly, I could be so decisive that everyone in that room immediately marshaled themselves to help me, to work quickly to find the source of the bleeding and stop it before it was too late, then work hours more to repair the aneurysm. Even the blood bank technicians were rushing upstairs hand-carrying the blood. Everybody became a part of this effort. And I know why it happened. There's something about taking command and transmitting this energy to everybody that makes them just pour out effort. That's what happened that day. All of us in the operating room called on a force within ourselves that even now I don't understand. I don't know what it was. And I don't want to be a New Age prophet; I'm not.
But you pray, and you think a lot more about the human spirit than you did when you were a young surgeon.
I have a great belief in spiritual strength, but spiritual strength, to me, comes from within. I want to restore people's belief in nature. I want to restore people's belief in the realization that there are so many failsafe mechanisms in our body that, unless we are truly overwhelmed, we're going to be healthy. And I'll tell you something else that's reassuring. Toward the end of your life, your body is giving you signals, sometimes very recognizable signals, that the time has come to recognize that nature has won and you must go with nature. Recognizing this gives you the most emotional comfort. It allows you to die the way people used to die 75 and 80 years ago, surrounded by those they loved. I find that very comforting.
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